Expansion Thread 2023

[GoBearcats31]

Sources: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...owing-cfp-snub

Emergency BOT meeting for Florida State https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/co...future-in-acc/

[bearcatbret]

@NicoleAuerbach:

NEWS: The WCC has scheduled a vote for Thursday to add most Oregon State and Washington State non-football sports for the 2024-25 academic year (including men's and women's basketball), source tells The Athletic

Not only will it be the PAC two but it will only include one sport. The PAC 2 is to become really strange.

[GoBearcats31]

@NicoleAuerbach:

NEWS: The WCC has scheduled a vote for Thursday to add most Oregon State and Washington State non-football sports for the 2024-25 academic year (including men's and women's basketball), source tells The Athletic

[GoBearcats31]

Sources: Florida State discussing future in ACC after CFP snub

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...owing-cfp-snub

[Lobot]

You called it.

”According to college football insider C.W. Lambert…”

https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-...r-2031-reports

If I had a $1 for every piece of BS that "Dude" wrote about or tweeted, I'd be rich. Everything out of his mouth is crap. He does it on purpose for engagement.

[longtimefan]

Where on earth is this coming from? Sounds like something one of the WVU "expansion experts" thought of at random.

You called it.

”According to college football insider C.W. Lambert…”

https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-...r-2031-reports

[Lobot]

There are rumors heating up about a PAC2/ACC/BIG12 merger of sorts... ACC would lose 4 schools. BY would be the overlord of all 3 conferences with shared revenue and 3 auto bids. PAC2 would be reformed into the PAC10 and many schools would be shifted around. Cincy/WVU/UCF likely be shifted to ACC. There would also be a major deal with UFC/WWE for more money and branding. Sounds like a long shot but it also makes a lot of sense to stay relevant and compete with B1G and SEC...

Where on earth is this coming from? Sounds like something one of the WVU "expansion experts" thought of at random.

[Chewbacca2099]

There are rumors heating up about a PAC2/ACC/BIG12 merger of sorts... ACC would lose 4 schools. BY would be the overlord of all 3 conferences with shared revenue and 3 auto bids. PAC2 would be reformed into the PAC10 and many schools would be shifted around. Cincy/WVU/UCF likely be shifted to ACC. There would also be a major deal with UFC/WWE for more money and branding. Sounds like a long shot but it also makes a lot of sense to stay relevant and compete with B1G and SEC...

[Lobot]

Looks like Oregon St and Wazzu are trying to ensure they get paid from the Pac 12. They're trying to take over the Pac 12 board. ($)

https://theathletic.com/4998183/2023...nction-pac-12/

The courts have declined to hear this case and as a result, the PAC 2 have basically taken control of the conference board. This ensures that the other schools leaving the conference don't run off with all the money.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39121069/washington-supreme-court-declines-review-pac-12-appeal

[Lobot]

Mr. Aresco always seemed like a good guy. He fought the good fight for the Power 6 conferences. He's probably just tired of fighting an uphill battle.

I thought moving the BB conference tournament to Texas was a mistake, though.

I think that was done mostly because the whole conference office moved to Las Colinas (Irving) and they got a sweetheart deal with Dickies Arena. It was brand new and available. I think the tournament would have done much better down here if it was in Dallas and not Ft. Worth. Also, COVID really killed the attendance for that whole run at Dickies. The optimal site down here would have been American Airlines Center but it's booked by the Big XII women's tournament that week.

In retrospect, I don't think the AAC MBB tourney was ever held in anything remotely considered a central site. Huge mistake. I always thought we should have booked something in Nashville for the tournament.

[bearcatbret]

He had a tough job trying to keep a conference together knowing that there were a handful of teams with 1 foot out the door.

[Geaux Juan]

Mr. Aresco always seemed like a good guy. He fought the good fight for the Power 6 conferences. He's probably just tired of fighting an uphill battle.

I thought moving the BB conference tournament to Texas was a mistake, though.

[GoBearcats31]

AAC commissioner Mike Aresco is retiring

[Lobot]

The MWC and PAC 2 have signed a scheduling contract.

I think they gist of this is that the PAC 2 need to legally carry the PAC name and membership to get paid their distributions from the conference. If they just straight up jump conferences, they lose the payouts.

[Geaux Juan]

I think that's a jump in Division for Delaware unless they moved up previously. They're usually an FCS powerhouse.

And, the two year period between moving up before bowl game and BB tournament appearances are allowed begins. I hope that they hover around .500 until 2026, lest we have the consternation a la JMU FB this year and Bellarmine BB two years ago.

There was a reason for the two year moratorium, but I don't know what it is. But if there's a true desire to change the rule, at least change it in the off-season and not in-season, as is always suggested in these cases.