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Until such time that the NCAA decides whether to allow a championship game for a conference with fewer than twelve teams, don't expect Bowlsby to hint that the B12 is wavering in expansion. He would be negotiating against himself. If the other conferences and the NCAA brass get the idea that Bowlsby is flexible on the idea, they would be much more likely to stand firm on the current requirement.
As far as the MAC goes ... No thank you! UC will NEVER rejoin that dead end conglomeration of mediocrity. Occasionally, a Northern Illinois comes along with a competitive team, but those squads are the exception. I can't see myself plunking down hard-earned cash to watch any of the directional Michigan schools, or Akron or Kent State if such show up at refurbished Nippert week after week. What corporations would buy club boxes for that?
The AAC is better in basketball than the MAC, and probably in most minor sports as well. But, even our current station isn't where we desire to be. UC is the second largest university in the state, with a world-class campus and well-developed academic programs.
You get what you aim for, if your target is low. The MAC fits that description, except for Miami's hockey team, a sport that perhaps no AAC school would consider.Last edited by swilsonsp4; 01-01-2015, 12:27 PM.
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Originally posted by bearcatbret View Post^Agree. I would add one thing. I agree with the Big12 at this point. Why have a championship game when they all play each other throughout the season. Why would you force the season champion to play another game and subject them to a possible embarrassing lose.
It's the same argument as saying they r not interested in expanding - until they hear from NCAA. It's posturing.Bleed red and black and everything else will take care of itself!
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Originally posted by bobestes View PostI think it is funny that Pres Ono is giving so much love to K State on twitter. Could they be our biggest supporter in the big 12?"In the morning he would read the Bible with another coach. Then, in the afternoon, he would go out and cheat kids who had probably saved up money from mowing lawns to buy those raffle tickets. That's Jim Tressel." - former colleague to Jim Tressel as quoted in Sports Illustrated.
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Bowlsby: No expansion for Big 12
ICYMI...I think this puts a bullet in the B12 expansion talk for at least a while..
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ing-10-schools
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Originally posted by bobestes View PostI would think that Iowa St, WVU and K State are probably pushing hard for expansion because if the Big 12 breaks up, they are toast. Texas and OU are probably against it.Brent Wyrick
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Originally posted by bearcattom View PostICYMI...I think this puts a bullet in the B12 expansion talk for at least a while..
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ing-10-schools
They can either stay at 10 and push for an 8 team playoff, expand or possibly continue to get shut out of the 4 team playoff. I don't believe a word he says.RIP #12 Greg Cook (1946-2012)
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Originally posted by RedRocker View PostThey are not getting their waiver. The PAC12, B1G and SEC will never approve it and surely the G-5 conferences won't go for it.
They can either stay at 10 and push for an 8 team playoff, expand or possibly continue to get shut out of the 4 team playoff. I don't believe a word he says.
1) The Big12's old marque name programs (Oklahoma & Texas) are down right now and don't have the national relevance they used to.
2) Some high profile P5 coaches (like Mark Dantonio) have made public statements that "a team should have to win their conference championship game to get into the playoffs". I'm guessing he's not the only one that feels that way.
3) The resurgence of the Big10 (O$U, Mich, etc) along with Notre Dame being loaded has got to be a nightmare scenario for the Big12. The possibility of the Big10 having several high profile teams again is problematic for the Big12.
Having said that, i don't look for the Big 12 to do anything rational. Like I said, it's a dysfunctional conference run by a Texas administration that's living in the past.
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Originally posted by Bearcat Otto View PostYou forgot to mention that if TCU had played and won a Conference Championship game rather than beating a bottom of the conference team like Iowa State, they would have definitely been in the playoffs instead of someone.
......Not to be a debbie downer, but it's not all good attention.
Who cares. It is national attention. UC's basketball program needs attention in just about any way it can get it.
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There is no link. TCU was definitely bashed and dropped from third in the polls to sixth after they beat Iowa State 55-3. I contend that if the Big 12 would have had a 13th game and TCU beat a Baylor team or even Kansas State that they would have never dropped out of the top four. If any team got jobbed, it was TCU.
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Originally posted by RedRocker View PostThey are not getting their waiver. The PAC12, B1G and SEC will never approve it and surely the G-5 conferences won't go for it.
They can either stay at 10 and push for an 8 team playoff, expand or possibly continue to get shut out of the 4 team playoff. I don't believe a word he says.
My reasoning for the Big 12 expanding (or the ACC for that matter) is there will ultimately be 4 super conferences with their own NCAA Tourney too! Grant of Rights or not, the battle to be the fourth conference is down to the ACC or the Big 12 as the SEC and B!G are secure. I don't think the PAC-12 will go anywhere either because their teams don't make sense geographically for any of the other four.
If the Big 12 gets to 14 teams, then one of two things will happen:
1. either the ACC will aggressively woo two Big-12 teams or
2. the ACC will vote to dissolve, thus ending the GOR and freeing top
teams to pursue SEC, B!G or Big 12 membership.
Once one of these scenarios play out, the PAC-12 will go after Texas and OU, and probably Boise St and BYU or Boise, BYU, SDSU, and Hawaii (for the fun trips to paradise if no other reason)Red and Black are more of an Attitude than merely a color combination.
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