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  • BearKatz
    Veteran
    • Oct 2014
    • 3211

    #496
    I get it, but everyone deserves a second chance....And what happened to Buford was off the court like Corie Blount.... Does not affect their ability to coach... Since they both have records, I'm sure neither would be a consideration.... As far as a downgrade or lowering our standards, this is the WORSE Coaching Staff we've had since Prior to Huggins... I would take any of those Bearcats over any Assistant Coach we have now...

    For what it's worth, everyone deserves a second chance, even though it's most likely a disqualifier at UC.

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    • Rufus
      Veteran
      • Apr 2019
      • 2686

      #497
      Originally posted by Gmann
      I too would like to see former Bearcats on the coaching staff but I really don't want to turn the head coaching position over to anyone who hasn't at least had some experience and success at the mid-major level like Huggs, Cronin and even Brannen did. We can't afford 2-3 years of growing pains or worse. All these coaches are going to stump for their assistants but they should be encouraging them to go off and get some experience on a smaller stage first. Another route is the known former NBA guy (Howard, Hardaway etc.) with a reputation and connections to get high level talent not a fringe guy.

      I believe I agree with Gmann, we tasted what a lack of coaching experience has given us we went from being the team to beat, the benchmark of the AAC to being blown out by a team whose coach knew what it would take to beat that bench mark and accomplished it in just a few years. We need a coach who knows how to build a team as quickly as possible on order to put the claw back on the college bball scene.
      Last edited by Rufus; 04-01-2021, 01:23 PM.

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      • MDW79
        Veteran
        • Jan 2008
        • 2699

        #498
        Originally posted by Corporateballa
        I went to watch them play in The Smith League.
        I actually googled this because I hadn't heard of it. Is this what the old Deveroe's league is called now?

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        • MDW79
          Veteran
          • Jan 2008
          • 2699

          #499
          Originally posted by BearKatz


          I wish I could but I can't reveal my source..... I am hoping we have a decision sometime today or tomorrow..
          Fwiw, my PM's are open. To you and Lobot. I'm dying for news, guys. I swear I'll be quiet.

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          • red_n_black_attack
            Veteran
            • Apr 2007
            • 4135

            #500
            Originally posted by Gmann
            I too would like to see former Bearcats on the coaching staff but I really don't want to turn the head coaching position over to anyone who hasn't at least had some experience and success at the mid-major level like Huggs, Cronin and even Brannen did. We can't afford 2-3 years of growing pains or worse. All these coaches are going to stump for their assistants but they should be encouraging them to go off and get some experience on a smaller stage first. Another route is the known former NBA guy (Howard, Hardaway etc.) with a reputation and connections to get high level talent not a fringe guy.
            My fear is that UC is seen as "a smaller stage" at this point. We aren't of course, but in other's perception...

            30 years since FF. 60 years since winning it all. Play in the rinky dink AAC. In 50's and 60's the big conferences only mattered much for football. Now, we are a mid major trying to get into a P5 conference to which we truly deserve. We won't be in the running for the Chris Beards (Texas Tech to Texas) or whoever is in the running to replace Roy at UNC
            Red and Black are more of an Attitude than merely a color combination.

            Intimidate! Dominate! Celebrate!

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            • longtimefan
              Veteran
              • Mar 2009
              • 5452

              #501
              Everything old is getting new again. Houston and Loyola are back, time for a return to Bearcat greatness. This is John Cunningham's first real chance to put a mark on the program. Hope he hits it out of the park.

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              • coach
                Veteran
                • Jan 2008
                • 4356

                #502
                Originally posted by Rufus


                I believe I agree with Gmann, we tasted what a lack of coaching experience has given us we went from being the team to beat, the benchmark of the AAC to being blown out by a team whose coach knew what it would take to beat that bench mark and accomplished it in a few yew years. We need a coach who knows how to build a team as quickly as possible on order to put the claw back on the college bball scene.
                I'm not sure Brannen's success at NKU in the Horizon League is any less than Huggs at Akron or Cronin at Murray.

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                • Barklee
                  Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 308

                  #503
                  Originally posted by coach

                  I'm not sure Brannen's success at NKU in the Horizon League is any less than Huggs at Akron or Cronin at Murray.
                  The difference is Higgs and Mick rebuilt dumpster fires into powerhouse programs; Brannen has turned a purring power into a dumpster fire.

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                  • Rufus
                    Veteran
                    • Apr 2019
                    • 2686

                    #504
                    Originally posted by coach

                    I'm not sure Brannen's success at NKU in the Horizon League is any less than Huggs at Akron or Cronin at Murray.


                    Not saying it is coach, but how many times have we seen it posted in this forum that JB was overwhelmed in this league having come from the horizon and just three years at D1, especially when we were losing. My point being that we can't can't take a chance on someone that is at the same stage of their career. We need someone who has both recruiting chops and coaching chops to at least maintain our feeble stature as it sits now but quickly get turned around to back where we were.

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                    • leeraymond
                      Distinguished Member
                      • Dec 2020
                      • 719

                      #505
                      Here is a question. What about bringing in Rick Pitino for about 4 or 5 years with the understanding that he would groom a successor to take over the basketball program long-term? A lot of fans may not like this pick. However, Pitino is a winner. Also, it would not take him a long time to get Cincinnati back to being nationally relevant. Additionally, Pitino is a Hall of Fame coach who can bring the recruits in immediately. He has NBA experience, which is a huge selling point to recruits, and he has won multiple NCAA basketball championships. It is true that Pitino comes with baggage, so damn what! The man can coach. Rick Pitino is going to end up back at a relevant program. Maybe UC can get him before some other program does. Just a thought.

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                      • BorisTheCat
                        Member
                        • Oct 2019
                        • 310

                        #506
                        Never gonna happen... IF they send Brannen packing for some "real issue".. how can you then bring in a coach that has MAJOR MAJOR issues ? You can't.

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                        • coach
                          Veteran
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 4356

                          #507
                          Originally posted by Rufus



                          Not saying it is coach, but how many times have we seen it posted in this forum that JB was overwhelmed in this league having come from the horizon and just three years at D1, especially when we were losing. My point being that we can't can't take a chance on someone that is at the same stage of their career. We need someone who has both recruiting chops and coaching chops to at least maintain our feeble stature as it sits now but quickly get turned around to back where we were.
                          And what are you going to pay them with?

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                          • London 'Cat
                            Super Moderator
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 4326

                            #508
                            Originally posted by BorisTheCat
                            Never gonna happen... IF they send Brannen packing for some "real issue".. how can you then bring in a coach that has MAJOR MAJOR issues ? You can't.
                            Not to mention his buyout at Iona is massive. I heard it’s about $10M. Not. Going. To. Happen.

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                            • Rufus
                              Veteran
                              • Apr 2019
                              • 2686

                              #509
                              Originally posted by coach

                              And what are you going to pay them with?
                              I know there is the problem. We will have to settle for a coach that we can afford and hope that he will turn into a Huggins. Enjoy him until the elitists comes with their bags of cash.

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                              • GangstaTakester
                                Member
                                • Dec 2018
                                • 174

                                #510
                                Originally posted by Rufus



                                Not saying it is coach, but how many times have we seen it posted in this forum that JB was overwhelmed in this league having come from the horizon and just three years at D1, especially when we were losing. My point being that we can't can't take a chance on someone that is at the same stage of their career. We need someone who has both recruiting chops and coaching chops to at least maintain our feeble stature as it sits now but quickly get turned around to back where we were.
                                We sell how well this worked for us when we brought in Tommy Tubberville in football!

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