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  • Lobot
    Administrator
    • Apr 2007
    • 28178

    #601
    I have it on good authority that we will be definitely be making a formal presentation to the Big 12. Santa Ono's involvement with it is up to the Board of Trustees. If they want him involved, he will be there for it.
    Brent Wyrick
    92 Final Four Front Row
    @LobotC2DFW

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    • Pharmfam
      Distinguished Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 524

      #602
      Originally posted by Lobot
      I have it on good authority that we will be definitely be making a formal presentation to the Big 12. Santa Ono's involvement with it is up to the Board of Trustees. If they want him involved, he will be there for it.
      Dr. Ono has a very good relationship with the folks at OU, KSU, and WVU. I would think his presence would be beneficial if he is willing to do it.
      ...a fountain of eternal youth, a tower of strength, a rock of truth...

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      • Lobot
        Administrator
        • Apr 2007
        • 28178

        #603
        He's very willing to to do it.
        Brent Wyrick
        92 Final Four Front Row
        @LobotC2DFW

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        • Lobot
          Administrator
          • Apr 2007
          • 28178

          #604
          Fluguar tweeting that the likely path will be UC/UConn/UH/BYU, which makes a lot of sense to me. I would have to guess that UConn and BYU would be football only.

          UConn basketball would likely move back into the Big East in this scenario. BYU would keep basketball where it is.
          Brent Wyrick
          92 Final Four Front Row
          @LobotC2DFW

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          • Chewbacca2099
            Distinguished Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 663

            #605
            I don't get why they would want UCONN as football only... the only thing that makes sense there is for the TV sets, but wouldn't USF/UCF make just as much sense in that regard? If they want BYU then it would be better to have another football only member to keep things even

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            • coach
              Veteran
              • Jan 2008
              • 4356

              #606
              I tend to agree. I can't see uconn as a partial player. I'm still on the fence if that group will affiliate with byu. We'll see. I also believe they are farther down the line in this selection process than is being publicly portrayed. I believe they already have all the information they likely want from us at this point, and the real question is how can they cut the best deal for the existing schools. However, at the end of the day you have to believe they are trying to put the best possible group together to move this forward. Otherwise, it's a short term proposition. However, i do believe the best move they could make is to add byu, cincy, uconn and houston. I could see why they might put memphis in for uconn given the distance issues, but i hope not. For all we know they could add 2, and we will not be one of them. However, i do not see them taking uconn and not us given the geography and trying to build a second geographical division.

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              • bearcatbret
                Veteran
                • May 2008
                • 8373

                #607
                I would like to see UH, Memphis, UC, UConn. I am still worried that Mr. FedEx may buy them in at the expense of UC. But we have the longest rival with Memphis, and have established one with UH and UConn. Although, I agree with most others plus the talking heads out there, BYU makes football only sense.

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                • Chewbacca2099
                  Distinguished Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 663

                  #608
                  Anything that includes us is a win. I'd prefer UC, USF or UCF, UCONN (full member), and Memphis (Houston is OK too but Memphis is within driving distance)

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                  • red_n_black_attack
                    Veteran
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4130

                    #609
                    Originally posted by Chewbacca2099
                    Anything that includes us is a win. I'd prefer UC, USF or UCF, UCONN (full member), and Memphis (Houston is OK too but Memphis is within driving distance)
                    I think the political pressure for Houston really will end up meaning either no expansion or UH is in.

                    I'm going with expansion, and UH in means need to add four. I don't think BYU can be discounted. FedEx and ESPN are the Memphis and UConn backers. They are bidding for a position against each other and BYU.

                    I'm rooting for Memphis to join UH and UC. We shall see if they get in with BYU and UConn competing.
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                    • swilsonsp4
                      Veteran
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5062

                      #610
                      Originally posted by red_n_black_attack

                      I think the political pressure for Houston really will end up meaning either no expansion or UH is in.

                      I'm going with expansion, and UH in means need to add four. I don't think BYU can be discounted. FedEx and ESPN are the Memphis and UConn backers. They are bidding for a position against each other and BYU.

                      I'm rooting for Memphis to join UH and UC. We shall see if they get in with BYU and UConn competing.
                      The political pressure seems to come strictly from Austin, whether it be UT or the state government. I'm not sure what level of pressure that puts on OU, OSU, KS, KSU or ISU. It takes only 3 schools voting down UH to doom the Cougars' bid. I imagine WV couldn't care less about the fate of UH. They want a partner.

                      The bigwigs at UT succumbed to the will of the majority this past week in view of the ACC TV deal. That factor isn't going away. I don't see TX blocking the move to expand, just because UH would get shot down. They can always tell the Cougar brass and fans, "Well, we gave it a shot for you, but it just wasn't in the cards."

                      That's not to say that the other 9 current B12 members don't look favorably upon UH. Some of them very well may, perhaps enough to vote the Cougars in..

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                      • bearcatbret
                        Veteran
                        • May 2008
                        • 8373

                        #611
                        If you think that anyone pays attention to online fan votes, here is one for you... http://www.desmoinesregister.com/sto...ball/87442424/ Keep in mind that one article showed facebook interest in the different schools and UC was way behind the others. So when you vote in any of these surveys, vote only one.

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                        • Lobot
                          Administrator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 28178

                          #612
                          Originally posted by bearcatbret
                          If you think that anyone pays attention to online fan votes, here is one for you... http://www.desmoinesregister.com/sto...ball/87442424/ Keep in mind that one article showed facebook interest in the different schools and UC was way behind the others. So when you vote in any of these surveys, vote only one.
                          Man, that article is still talking about Tulane. The ONLY thing Tulane has going for it is that it's AAU. In the current climate I'm not sure AAU matters as much as we used to think, if at all.
                          Brent Wyrick
                          92 Final Four Front Row
                          @LobotC2DFW

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                          • longtimefan
                            Veteran
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 5436

                            #613
                            Joseph Duarte on Twitter: "ISU president Steven Leath tells @AmesTribNews that many Big 12 presidents feel league is 'already Texas-heavy' but UH will get 'fair shake'"

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                            • bearcatbret
                              Veteran
                              • May 2008
                              • 8373

                              #614
                              This reporter thinks that the SEC should poach Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/20...ds_so_sho.html . It makes you wonder if the ACC is thinking of going to 16 teams as well and if UC could get in there. It would bring back the rivals of the old Metro Conference including Louisville, Virginia Tech, and Florida State. It would also reunite old Big East rivals including Pitt and Syracuse. Bring in UConn as well to get to 16 teams. I wonder if the Big 12 announcement of expansion is going to create a tidal wave within the power 5 and not just the group of 5.

                              Or do you think that the other conferences are waiting for the SEC to poach OK and OK State and then the ACC and PAC 12 will take the best 4 teams left in the Big 12 leaving the bottom four begging to be part of the American?

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                              • swilsonsp4
                                Veteran
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 5062

                                #615
                                Here are comments by the ISU prez that, while not mentioning any candidates (aside from UH), are very encouraging in terms of what he believes the B12 leaders are seeking. UC fits this description very well.


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