Big 12 in 2016

[bearcatbret]

Here are my four teams and why...no particular order.

1. Air Force (football only) - academics, reputation, AF reportedly approached in the past which shows Big 12 interest, AF has not removed themselves from consideration so they are interested
2. BYU (football only) - there is no way the Big 12 passes on BYU, academics, fan base, facilities, good teams
3. UC - great teams when in better conference, tv market, bridge to WV, many ties to Big 12 presidents, research, academics, recruiting base
4. Either Houston or UCONN - UCONN would be my first choice but can't rule out unpredictable and irrational politics

I think AF and BYU are football only to resolve issues such as travel and no play Sundays. Also, both are located in the Mountain time zone so they will not feel isolated with each in the conference and not being the only “football only” school. And “football only” is a compromise with the television partners who will soon be handing the Big 12 more money. AF and BYU will be in the same division.

I think that if it goes four teams, it will be a compromise. Houston will not get the needed votes to be number 11 or 12. If Texas even cares for expansion and if they really do want Houston, they will go with four teams and Houston will be on of the last two. There was speculation that BYU and UC would begin next year and Houston and a 4th team would begin in 2018. That may still be the case. Like you, I would prefer UConn over Houston. As the conference stands now, there is no need for another Texas school. However, if UT and TT leave for the SEC, it would make sense to have Houston around. I just can not see anyone wanting to take UT though. Maybe an arrangement like ND has with the ACC, a part-time player/part-time independent. As far as teams potentially leaving, I am not sure the BIG will pick up Kansas. I am not sure anyone will pick up OK State. As I have said before, UConn is more valuable than Kansas and no conference seems to be interested in UConn.

I am starting to believe that there will be zero teams added. All we can worry about is taking care of current business and that means beating Purdue on Saturday.

[slimm]

I still think its no expansion or 2 teams.... BYU and UC
https://twitter.com/GSwaim/status/774353169686167552

[red_n_black_attack]

...However, if UT and TT leave for the SEC, it would make sense to have Houston around. I just can not see anyone wanting to take UT though...As far as teams potentially leaving, I am not sure the BIG will pick up Kansas. I am not sure anyone will pick up OK State. .

If Boren and Bowlsby get expansion by four, the Big 12 will be saved, except maybe Texas defecting. If not, here are some points to consider because you're right, the Big 12 will cease to exist after 2024.

1. You're right - no one will take Texas with LHN or their ego.

2. I'm sure Texas has told TT, we wouldn't join another conference without you; however, no conference would take TT to appease Texas.

3. Kansas and Ok State are safer, because they have value as joined with Oklahoma
A) The B!G has to be adjacent states rule, so need to add them to get to OU.
B) The SEC is better spot for OU and OSU will make nice package. Depends if OU wants to rejoin Nebraska.

[Lobot]

We did make our presentation yesterday according to the AP. Thanks to GoBearcats31 for this.

http://collegefootball.ap.org/articl...2-meeting-wrap

[CroninCrazy]

I still think its no expansion or 2 teams.... BYU and UC
https://twitter.com/GSwaim/status/774353169686167552

Tweet has been deleted. What did it say?

[slimm]

Tweet has been deleted. What did it say?

---- Nothing new, just that all the presentations were wrapped up so "let the leaks and speculations begin." Fingers crossed. Im an optimist in general except when it comes to Cincinnati Sports. Seems our teams are Charlie Brown and that "Fate", colluding with the NCAA, NFL, MLB etc... is Lucy, pulling that ball away.

[red_n_black_attack]

Beat Houston Thursday, get to 3-0! I sincerely hope Ward Jr isn't badly hurt and can play against us. Hate to see college kids hurt even our opponents

[bearcatbret]

Our two safeties left the game today. I sure hope that they can be back for Thursday.

[Lobot]

Back into expansion land. For those that haven't seen it yet, the NCAA pulled all of it's championships for 2016-2017 from the state of NC because of HB2 in that state. That prompted this tweet from Dennis Dodds:




Dennis Dodd Verified account ‏@dennisdoddcbs

Just making neutral observation: Today’s NCAA actions in UNC cannot be a good sign for BYU re @Big12Conference given LGBT letter to conf.

[bearcatbret]

http://www.campusrush.com/aac-footba...003972385.html
Then someone with a pen says that the AAC is worth saving.

[red_n_black_attack]

Back into expansion land. For those that haven't seen it yet, the NCAA pulled all of it's championships for 2016-2017 from the state of NC because of HB2 in that state. That prompted this tweet from Dennis Dodds:




Dennis Dodd Verified account ‏@dennisdoddcbs

Just making neutral observation: Today’s NCAA actions in UNC cannot be a good sign for BYU re @Big12Conference given LGBT letter to conf.

I saw that and thought the same thing, though I also heard a week-ten days ago that BYU is revising the Honor Code and are putting the finishing touches on it for final approval.

[red_n_black_attack]

http://www.campusrush.com/aac-footba...003972385.html
Then someone with a pen says that the AAC is worth saving.

The American Athletic Conference could've grown into a formidable conference (and may yet). Money is dictating this train and the AAC doesn't bring in enough to keep coaches paid at top levels, renovate facilities to recruit the best players, and renovate the stadiums to maximize corporate sponsorship and increased seating capacities. The networks are making money off the lower tier conferences because there's always a team or two that captures that magical Cinderella status and the networks have the tv rights at bottom dollar prices. The network dollars won't change in the next contract either. While the next contract should see a rise in revenue, it might see each team receiving almost as much as the Big East receives for basketball and that is still less than a tenth of what the Big 12 makes.

There is an interesting mix of old storied programs (Navy and to a lesser extent Houston/Cincinnati) and new stories being made (USF, UConn, UCF) and everything in between in the AAC. However, there's not enough there to state it is worth saving unless the money has a shot at becoming close to on par with the P-5 conferences. traditions are great reasons to keep Wake, Vandy, Northwestern and other traditional bottom dwellers until the Networks come to the conferences and offer more money to drop them and add the next wave. Personally, I see the GOR as the major reason conferences haven't forsaken each other in this fashion - the other being the traditional Bowl tie-ins.

[coach]

Don't count it out. At the rate things are going, the AAC(or whatever they call it then) will have a lot of it's current members and likely the fallout from either the existing b12 or possibly acc in the next 7 or 8 years if things keep up the way they are headed. The musical chairs are likely to continue in some fashion.

[coach]

Boy, no comments on Tubberville's press conference quote yesterday re: he thought expansion decision(s) had already been made? For a group that hangs on Dude and Flugar, et. al. that is about as juicy a comment as i've seen in a long time.

[Chewbacca2099]

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/spor...-914/90346740/