Expansion Thread 2023

[longtimefan]

McMurphy:
“Arizona, Arizona State & 2-time defending Pac-12 champion Utah joining Big 12 in 2024 pending Big 12 formal approval in next 24 hours, sources told @ActionNetworkHQ. Big 12 will be 3rd league w/at least 16 schools, while Pac-12 down to 4 schools.”

We were in a 16 team BE for basketball, I have no idea how football will work.

[Lobot]

Thamel just now:

Sources: Both Utah and Arizona State have applied for formal membership to the Big 12 Conference, and there’s a call tonight with the Big 12's presidents and chancellors to discuss their membership. Arizona applied and was approved yesterday.

[bearcatbret]

The ugly side of me says to stop at Arizona and let the remaining 6 join either the Mountain West or AAC. For at least one realignment cycle so that when/if they are considered to join one of the Power 4, everyone can say that x conference is taking Utah from the group of 5.

Also, let them work on $5M/year or less TV deal for a cycle.

[Lobot]

Utah to the Big 12 looks eminent per Jason Scheer

[Chewbacca2099]

I hope this one isn't true...

Hearing now there is a possibility B12 could go to 18 and bring in ASU/Utah/WSU/ORSU all at reduced shares for the remainder of the new contract and give them full membership at the next contract. Developing now so stay tuned.

[longtimefan]

Stanford, Cal, Utah and ASU are all AAU schools. This makes them a Big 10 target but I'm not sure that conference can grow much larger and ASU seems like a bad fit if it does.

Here's the current list. You'll notice some new names. GW and USF are two of the 6 new members. UC is on target to join this group in the future, I've been told.

https://www.aau.edu/who-we-are/our-members

Ohio State keeps UC out.

[Lobot]

ASU and Utah are thinking about the Big 12 according to McMurphy and others. ASU's president is doing a good Greg Willams and the Big East imitation here though.

[Lobot]

SDSU is forever stuck in MWC now. Unless the PAC somehow survives with 4 teams and adds them in a couple years. Big12 can now screw over ASU/Utah if they want and only give them partial shares... they'd still have to join with their tails between their legs. They will also slow down and explore what will be most valuable to the league... would Stanford/Cal make sense at all? etc. They may slow the AZ announcement and make sure they have the best 2-4 value teams selected.

Stanford, Cal, Utah and ASU are all AAU schools. This makes them a Big 10 target but I'm not sure that conference can grow much larger and ASU seems like a bad fit if it does.

Here's the current list. You'll notice some new names. GW and USF are two of the 6 new members. UC is on target to join this group in the future, I've been told.

https://www.aau.edu/who-we-are/our-members

[swilsonsp4]

I was under the impression that SDSU took back their intention to exit the conference, and after some meetings were back in good standing. They just have to pay the legal fees related to the process of not leaving. I think I heard somewhere, as part of being taken back, they can't exit for a minimum of two years. But I could be mistaken.

This is all correct.

I expect some kind of merger/absorption of the remaining PAC and MWC schools.

[Lobot]

i thought that sdsu pledged its eternal love to the mwc - are you sure it's leaving next summer?

I might have missed something. I've been really busy lately. I know they were let back in but I'm not really sure if the 2024 exit is off the table or not. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Chewbacca2099]

SDSU is forever stuck in MWC now. Unless the PAC somehow survives with 4 teams and adds them in a couple years. Big12 can now screw over ASU/Utah if they want and only give them partial shares... they'd still have to join with their tails between their legs. They will also slow down and explore what will be most valuable to the league... would Stanford/Cal make sense at all? etc. They may slow the AZ announcement and make sure they have the best 2-4 value teams selected.

[longtimefan]

Seeing reports that Apple canceled their offer. Wow.

[Illuminerdski]

Ok, if the PAC collapses, what the heck does SDSU do? They’re exiting the MW on July 1, 2024. Suddenly, there’s nowhere to go?

I was under the impression that SDSU took back their intention to exit the conference, and after some meetings were back in good standing. They just have to pay the legal fees related to the process of not leaving. I think I heard somewhere, as part of being taken back, they can't exit for a minimum of two years. But I could be mistaken.

[D.A.H.]

Ok, if the PAC collapses, what the heck does SDSU do? They’re exiting the MW on July 1, 2024. Suddenly, there’s nowhere to go?

i thought that sdsu pledged its eternal love to the mwc - are you sure it's leaving next summer?

[Lobot]

Ok, if the PAC collapses, what the heck does SDSU do? They’re exiting the MW on July 1, 2024. Suddenly, there’s nowhere to go?